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		<title>By: Jail Nurse</title>
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		<description>Tough  topic and I applaud your both raising the subject, and inviting dialogue. I work in a small jail, near San Quentin, North Bay, California. In our small jail we do occasionally house transgendered inmates. It is the policy that if you have the equipment, to go to the housing unit with others who share your same equipment. Regardless of your self perception about what gender you are. The way I understand this, in a basic way, is that to put a Male to Female trans-gender person in the female ward, invites the possibility of pregnancy in custody. I get this completely, because the invitation for a lawsuit for not &quot;protecting the women&quot; is far too great. Rape isn&#039;t even the issue, it is the complexity of the human mind, criminological thinking, and the delight with the possibility of &quot;getting back at the system&quot;.  I find people far too wiling to take advantage of the system, and not necessarily in custody to rehabilitate themselves to be better citizens. Unfortunatley, and I do believe people can change. 

On the same hand, feminized men in male housing units invite tremendous challenges to custody for their protection as well. Those men are vulnerable to the other inmates, at risk for rape, violence, and objectification.  Don&#039;t even start with the prevention concept of STD&#039;s, HIV, HEP C in jails and prisons Those same trans-gender inmates find find themselves in powerful positions for the elicit trade and prostitution market.  Depending both on what they are willing to do, and how they perceive themselves as victims, or even unwillingly accept that victim role simply to survive.

My belief is if someone has gone the full mile to obtain a full trans-gender surgical procedure, and can make the full adjustment to the assigned gender in all ways, they should be assigned to their new gender housing. End of Story.

Feminized men must be placed in protective custody, and watched very carefully for signs of victimization and elicit trade. It is not ideal by any means. 

I have also been called to testify as to why the service I represent would not provide hormone injections for a male to female inmate. He was in fact on oral hormones, and as some of the nurses I work with stated &quot;His breasts are bigger than mine&quot; In this case, he was headed to prison, and was fighting to get on the injectable drug was IMHO to more or less pave the way for the same treatment in prison. Now it may be different in California Prisons, I think that lawsuit has been won, and that Trans-gender Disorder is in the DSM-IV, and the treatment prescribed is in fact hormone treatment. 

Because my primary concerns are for the patient, with the dwindling budget I manage, I often have to juggle opposing beliefs within myself. In this case I clearly had to think through what the objectives were for my service, the costs to the community I serve, the patients actual versus percieved needs and what constituted an urgent or emergent condition, and act accordingly. In court I did not support his receiving injectable medicine. And to this day, I do feel that was the appropriate opinion for me to render. 

After the court appearance, a nurse came to me and told me of a conversation with the inmate. She had asked him why he wanted the injectable medicine so badly, as the oral medicine seemed to be working fine. He was by the way, in protective custody and there was a fight between two men over &#039;him&#039; and he had been providing sexual favors even in PC. HE told the nurse &quot;I want to lactate, isn&#039;t that what real women do?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tough  topic and I applaud your both raising the subject, and inviting dialogue. I work in a small jail, near San Quentin, North Bay, California. In our small jail we do occasionally house transgendered inmates. It is the policy that if you have the equipment, to go to the housing unit with others who share your same equipment. Regardless of your self perception about what gender you are. The way I understand this, in a basic way, is that to put a Male to Female trans-gender person in the female ward, invites the possibility of pregnancy in custody. I get this completely, because the invitation for a lawsuit for not &#8220;protecting the women&#8221; is far too great. Rape isn&#8217;t even the issue, it is the complexity of the human mind, criminological thinking, and the delight with the possibility of &#8220;getting back at the system&#8221;.  I find people far too wiling to take advantage of the system, and not necessarily in custody to rehabilitate themselves to be better citizens. Unfortunatley, and I do believe people can change. </p>
<p>On the same hand, feminized men in male housing units invite tremendous challenges to custody for their protection as well. Those men are vulnerable to the other inmates, at risk for rape, violence, and objectification.  Don&#8217;t even start with the prevention concept of STD&#8217;s, HIV, HEP C in jails and prisons Those same trans-gender inmates find find themselves in powerful positions for the elicit trade and prostitution market.  Depending both on what they are willing to do, and how they perceive themselves as victims, or even unwillingly accept that victim role simply to survive.</p>
<p>My belief is if someone has gone the full mile to obtain a full trans-gender surgical procedure, and can make the full adjustment to the assigned gender in all ways, they should be assigned to their new gender housing. End of Story.</p>
<p>Feminized men must be placed in protective custody, and watched very carefully for signs of victimization and elicit trade. It is not ideal by any means. </p>
<p>I have also been called to testify as to why the service I represent would not provide hormone injections for a male to female inmate. He was in fact on oral hormones, and as some of the nurses I work with stated &#8220;His breasts are bigger than mine&#8221; In this case, he was headed to prison, and was fighting to get on the injectable drug was IMHO to more or less pave the way for the same treatment in prison. Now it may be different in California Prisons, I think that lawsuit has been won, and that Trans-gender Disorder is in the DSM-IV, and the treatment prescribed is in fact hormone treatment. </p>
<p>Because my primary concerns are for the patient, with the dwindling budget I manage, I often have to juggle opposing beliefs within myself. In this case I clearly had to think through what the objectives were for my service, the costs to the community I serve, the patients actual versus percieved needs and what constituted an urgent or emergent condition, and act accordingly. In court I did not support his receiving injectable medicine. And to this day, I do feel that was the appropriate opinion for me to render. </p>
<p>After the court appearance, a nurse came to me and told me of a conversation with the inmate. She had asked him why he wanted the injectable medicine so badly, as the oral medicine seemed to be working fine. He was by the way, in protective custody and there was a fight between two men over &#8216;him&#8217; and he had been providing sexual favors even in PC. HE told the nurse &#8220;I want to lactate, isn&#8217;t that what real women do?&#8221;</p>
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